Failing to unsubscribe


#1

Hi,

Just want you to know that Google fails to unsubscribe this list. It is
also odd to require we site login to unsubscribe. Old good Mailman is more
intelligent in this respect.

My personal signal/noize ratio from this group exceeded the threshold I can
handle, so I am unsubscribing. Too bad lists are not searchable and not
accessible. I’d still read them from the web as a Google Group or something.

anatoly t.


#2

I’m pretty sure the lists are accessible from the web.
here’s the chef list:
http://lists.opscode.com/sympa/arc/chef/2012-06
and here’s the chef-dev list:
http://lists.opscode.com/sympa/arc/chef-dev/2012-06

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:15 PM, anatoly techtonik techtonik@gmail.comwrote:

Hi,

Just want you to know that Google fails to unsubscribe this list. It is
also odd to require we site login to unsubscribe. Old good Mailman is more
intelligent in this respect.

My personal signal/noize ratio from this group exceeded the threshold I
can handle, so I am unsubscribing. Too bad lists are not searchable and not
accessible. I’d still read them from the web as a Google Group or something.

anatoly t.


#3

On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 01:15:27AM +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote:

Just want you to know that Google fails to unsubscribe this
list. […] My personal signal/noize ratio from this group
exceeded the threshold I can handle,

I hope other subscribers also enjoyed the humor in that
combination of statements.

Anatoly, this list is not managed by Google. In the headers of
every post that comes from the list is the following:

List-Id: <chef.lists.opscode.com>
List-Archive: <http://lists.opscode.com/sympa/arc/chef>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa@lists.opscode.com?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:chef-request@lists.opscode.com>
List-Post: <mailto:chef@lists.opscode.com>                                                                                                                                                                                        List-Subscribe: <mailto:sympa@lists.opscode.com?subject=subscribe%20chef>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:sympa@lists.opscode.com?subject=unsubscribe%20chef>

Most mailing list managers include something similar, so that’s a
good place to look whenever you’re unsure of how to unsubscribe
from one.

Too bad lists are not searchable and not accessible. I’d still
read them from the web as a Google Group or something.

The archives of this list are available both on both Opscode’s
site
and on Gmane.

References:


Phil Mocek
http://mocek.org/


#4

On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Phil Mocek phil-lists@mocek.org wrote:

I hope other subscribers also enjoyed the humor in that
combination of statements.

I did. Some people have trouble dealing with things if they are implemented using software they’re not already familiar with, which with regard to mailing lists, that may mean that if they’re not managed with Mailman or Google Groups, then some people just can’t cope.

The irony is that I have been a contributor to the Mailman project for years, and we’re now in the process of doing a complete rebuild of the mail system for python.org (and Mailman). However, while I support Mailman and I believe it is a good choice in this space, I also recognize the basic problem.

Towards that end, I have offered my skills and knowledge to help convert this list over to Google Groups, if Opscode is still interested in doing so. I figure I can do pretty much all the work that needs to be done, so long as they tell me who the official list owners should be. Once that work is completed, I would of course hand over full control to the appropriate personnel.

Anyway, the offer is on the table, and I’m happy to do this at no charge (or only a nominal charge, depending on the requirements that Opscode has for this kind of work). All I care about is trying to contribute something useful back to the Chef community, and if this is one way I can do that, then I am happy to do so.


Brad Knowles brad@shub-internet.org
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