Berksfile.lock versioning, can i switch from librarian yet?

In librarian, I can create a Cheffile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and librarian-chef will strictly follow the lock file for what gets
installed.

In berkshelf, I can create a Berksfile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and berkshelf will sometimes follow the lockfile, and sometimes to
whatever the fuck it wants and install newer versions of things like
apache2 that I haven’t tested yet.

What am I doing wrong? Is there no option for berkshelf to strictly
follow the locksfile? Is it always just a suggestion?

we had the same issue with berks 2. We didn't encounter this with berks 3.
which version of berks you are using?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jesse Campbell hikeit@gmail.com wrote:

In librarian, I can create a Cheffile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and librarian-chef will strictly follow the lock file for what gets
installed.

In berkshelf, I can create a Berksfile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and berkshelf will sometimes follow the lockfile, and sometimes to
whatever the fuck it wants and install newer versions of things like
apache2 that I haven't tested yet.

What am I doing wrong? Is there no option for berkshelf to strictly
follow the locksfile? Is it always just a suggestion?

3.0.1

ran "berks install" 2 days ago, got apache 1.10.2. ran it today, got
1.10.4, and it updated the lockfile

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ranjib Dey dey.ranjib@gmail.com wrote:

we had the same issue with berks 2. We didn't encounter this with berks 3.
which version of berks you are using?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jesse Campbell hikeit@gmail.com wrote:

In librarian, I can create a Cheffile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and librarian-chef will strictly follow the lock file for what gets
installed.

In berkshelf, I can create a Berksfile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and berkshelf will sometimes follow the lockfile, and sometimes to
whatever the fuck it wants and install newer versions of things like
apache2 that I haven't tested yet.

What am I doing wrong? Is there no option for berkshelf to strictly
follow the locksfile? Is it always just a suggestion?

This is fixed as we discussed on the issue you opened (Berksfile.lock versions *still* not followed · Issue #1158 · berkshelf/berkshelf · GitHub).

Please consider using an alternate tone in the future. I understand that you are experiencing frustration, but, in my experience, the users of the Chef mailing list are far more likely to give helpful responses if you are slightly less angry in your words.

Thanks,
Seth

On Apr 24, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Jesse Campbell hikeit@gmail.com wrote:

3.0.1

ran "berks install" 2 days ago, got apache 1.10.2. ran it today, got
1.10.4, and it updated the lockfile

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ranjib Dey dey.ranjib@gmail.com wrote:

we had the same issue with berks 2. We didn't encounter this with berks 3.
which version of berks you are using?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jesse Campbell hikeit@gmail.com wrote:

In librarian, I can create a Cheffile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and librarian-chef will strictly follow the lock file for what gets
installed.

In berkshelf, I can create a Berksfile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and berkshelf will sometimes follow the lockfile, and sometimes to
whatever the fuck it wants and install newer versions of things like
apache2 that I haven't tested yet.

What am I doing wrong? Is there no option for berkshelf to strictly
follow the locksfile? Is it always just a suggestion?

Hi Seth, thank you for taking care of the issue and apologies for the
tone of my post. I know that there is a lot of time and effort that
has gone into the project and the way I posted does not reflect that.

-Jesse

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Seth Vargo sethvargo@getchef.com wrote:

This is fixed as we discussed on the issue you opened
(Berksfile.lock versions *still* not followed · Issue #1158 · berkshelf/berkshelf · GitHub).

Please consider using an alternate tone in the future. I understand that you
are experiencing frustration, but, in my experience, the users of the Chef
mailing list are far more likely to give helpful responses if you are
slightly less angry in your words.

Thanks,
Seth

On Apr 24, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Jesse Campbell hikeit@gmail.com wrote:

3.0.1

ran "berks install" 2 days ago, got apache 1.10.2. ran it today, got
1.10.4, and it updated the lockfile

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ranjib Dey dey.ranjib@gmail.com wrote:

we had the same issue with berks 2. We didn't encounter this with berks 3.
which version of berks you are using?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jesse Campbell hikeit@gmail.com wrote:

In librarian, I can create a Cheffile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and librarian-chef will strictly follow the lock file for what gets
installed.

In berkshelf, I can create a Berksfile.lock and test it on the dev
environment, then check it into version control, push to production,
and berkshelf will sometimes follow the lockfile, and sometimes to
whatever the fuck it wants and install newer versions of things like
apache2 that I haven't tested yet.

What am I doing wrong? Is there no option for berkshelf to strictly
follow the locksfile? Is it always just a suggestion?