Hey Sean,
That is frighteningly useful information. Even if I don’t use it for this project (and I may well use it), it’s incredibly useful to be aware that the upgrade action exists inside the package resource, and that I can notify a service restart from it.
Thank you!
James
From: Sean OMeara [mailto:someara@chef.io]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:03 PM
To: chef@lists.opscode.com
Subject: [chef] Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: detect if a service is running?
Er... I meant to add more bits to that.
notifies, :run 'bash[an_script]' , :immediately
notifies, :restart 'service[whatever]', :delayed
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Sean OMeara <someara@chef.iomailto:someara@chef.io> wrote:
All that stuff being said... in real life you can usually get away with :
package "whatever" do
action :upgrade
notifies, :restart 'service[whatever]'
end
service 'whatever' do
action [:enable, :start]
end
Very rarely do you need to stop a service before writing the new bits to disk, since services are typically all the way into ram. The only reason you'd need to do this is if the service is actively reading files off disk that the package is responsible for.
package "whatever" do
action :upgrade
notifies, :run 'bash[an_script]'
notifies, :restart 'service[whatever]'
end
bash 'an_script' do
code <<EOF
EOF
action :nothing
end
service 'whatever' do
action [:enable, :start]
end
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Steven Murawski <steven.murawski@gmail.commailto:steven.murawski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey James,
Just a question on your workflow.. do you only run Chef when you have to upgrade the service? If you are running Chef in the background (like say every 30 minutes), how will your service respond to being stopped and reinstalled regularly?
Depending on what your workflow for using the chef-client is, you may want to approach this a bit differently. Perhaps storing the target version in a data bag and conditionally running a recipe that will stop the service (if it exists) and then do the install), but if you are already running the target version it skips it?
Steve
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Community Software Development Engineer @ Chef
Microsoft MVP - PowerShell
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On January 12, 2015 at 3:33:10 PM, James Harrison (jharrison@alteryx.commailto:jharrison@alteryx.com) wrote:
Hey chefs,
The installer will automatically uninstall previous versions of itself, but the service that the installer provides has to be stopped before the installer can proceed.
To wrap this one up, the solution I went with was a little custom code:
execute "Stop the Service" do
command "net stop "
only_if 'sc query | find "RUNNING"'
end
There are three conditions this meets:
- if the service is not installed, do not try to stop it
- if the service is installed, but stopped, do not try to stop it
- if the service is installed, and running, stop it.
The reason these three are the conditions I’m trying to meet is mostly from experimenting and finding out the failure conditions in chef. If I try to stop a non-installed service, Chef errors out. If I try to stop a service that is already stopped, Chef errors out.
sc can query quite happily whether a service exists, but if you use it to try and stop a service you get bit by a subtle piece of behavior: it’s asynchronous. As such, the command to request the service to stop will return immediately and then the service stops in the background. If you want a synchronous stopping of the service, you’ve got to use the net suite of commands.
Best
James
From: Kenneth Barry [mailto:kbarry@tunein.commailto:kbarry@tunein.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:59 AM
To: chef@lists.opscode.commailto:chef@lists.opscode.com
Subject: [chef] Re: Re: detect if a service is running?
Any chance the installer has a switch to remove previous versions of itself, if they are present?
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Daniel DeLeo <dan@kallistec.commailto:dan@kallistec.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 3:31 PM, James Harrison wrote:
Hi chefs,
I’m pretty new to chef, and feel like I’m missing something obvious. Any advice would be appreciated. I’m trying to cover two scenarios with one recipe, in a Windows environment. What I’m trying to do is:
- Scenario 1: install a package
- Scenario 2: if the package is already installed, stop a service and then reinstall the package.
The recipe, as currently written, goes through a series of steps involving downloading the installer, always attempting to stop the service, then running the installer if the package is not already installed, then starting the service.
The problem I’m facing is in scenario 1. If I attempt to stop the service, but the service is not installed, then I receive an exception and execution of the recipe halts.
Am I trying to do something that is better covered by two recipes? Or is there some easy way to check if a service is installed?
Thanks
James
A few things here. Firstly, our platform abstraction code is generally pretty tightly coupled to providers, which are also responsible for providing idempotent behavior, why-run support, logging events, and all sorts of things not related to, say, talking to the service manager or package manager. Which means that Chef doesn’t provide a nice abstract way of querying these things. So to meet your requirement to check if a package or service is installed, you’re best off running the command yourself.
As for how you accomplish that, there are a few ways. In the other branch of this thread, it was suggested to use notifies, but Chef doesn’t provide a “before notification,” which is what you’d need to stop the service before the package is upgraded (but only if it’s going to be upgraded). So one way or another, you’re going to have to write some code that can tell you if the package is about to be upgraded and will stop the service if that check returns true. You can use shell_out (specifics about doing this depend on whether you’re on Chef 11 or 12) to run a command and give you the return code and output. Once you have that, it might be as simple as adding a resource like:
service “stop FOO service before upgrading” do
other important stuff
action :stop
only_if { about_to_upgrade_package_foo? } # Ruby convention: true/false methods named w/ question mark
end
resources to install/upgrade package, start service
HTH,
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