Best Practice to enable report handlers

report handlers question: why NOT enable them in client.rb? I have a
large environment, and I want to ensure that it’s run EACH AND EVERY
time.


Judd Maltin
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what could possibly go wrong?

There's no reason not to put them in client.rb. I usually use the LWRP
just because it's easier to add and remove them via run list.

Well, I guess there's no reason except that if you somehow distribute a
broken handler to all your nodes, you then (IIRC from early ~10.0
experimentation) effectively kill their ability to check in until you can
roll back the broken handler or the client.rb that calls it.

So using the LWRP / recipe / run list method, your nodes are still checking
in and getting updated code. If the code says, "Add this handler" and the
handler raises a big stinky exception, you modify the cookbook or take the
recipe/role that adds the handler out of the run list.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Judd Maltin judd@newgoliath.com wrote:

report handlers question: why NOT enable them in client.rb? I have a
large environment, and I want to ensure that it's run EACH AND EVERY
time.

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?

Good point. My report handler code will likely go through revisions,
making it potentially unstable, and possible blocker. Thanks, Steve.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, steve . leftathome@gmail.com wrote:

There's no reason not to put them in client.rb. I usually use the LWRP just
because it's easier to add and remove them via run list.

Well, I guess there's no reason except that if you somehow distribute a
broken handler to all your nodes, you then (IIRC from early ~10.0
experimentation) effectively kill their ability to check in until you can
roll back the broken handler or the client.rb that calls it.

So using the LWRP / recipe / run list method, your nodes are still checking
in and getting updated code. If the code says, "Add this handler" and the
handler raises a big stinky exception, you modify the cookbook or take the
recipe/role that adds the handler out of the run list.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Judd Maltin judd@newgoliath.com wrote:

report handlers question: why NOT enable them in client.rb? I have a
large environment, and I want to ensure that it's run EACH AND EVERY
time.

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?

By "enable them in the client.rb" I'm assuming you mean using the
'manual install' method as described in the docs [1]

As Steve mentioned it's definitely preferable to manage report
handlers via the LWRP, which is provided by the chef_handler cookbook
[2]. You can more easily enable/disable specific handlers that way
without needing to editing the client.rb

[1] http://docs.opscode.com/essentials_handlers_install.html
[2] GitHub - chef-boneyard/chef_handler: DEPRECATED: Development repository for Chef Cookbook chef_handler

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Judd Maltin judd@newgoliath.com wrote:

Good point. My report handler code will likely go through revisions,
making it potentially unstable, and possible blocker. Thanks, Steve.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, steve . leftathome@gmail.com wrote:

There's no reason not to put them in client.rb. I usually use the LWRP just
because it's easier to add and remove them via run list.

Well, I guess there's no reason except that if you somehow distribute a
broken handler to all your nodes, you then (IIRC from early ~10.0
experimentation) effectively kill their ability to check in until you can
roll back the broken handler or the client.rb that calls it.

So using the LWRP / recipe / run list method, your nodes are still checking
in and getting updated code. If the code says, "Add this handler" and the
handler raises a big stinky exception, you modify the cookbook or take the
recipe/role that adds the handler out of the run list.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Judd Maltin judd@newgoliath.com wrote:

report handlers question: why NOT enable them in client.rb? I have a
large environment, and I want to ensure that it's run EACH AND EVERY
time.

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?

You can also add handlers to client.rb using the chef-client::config
recipe, so it doesn't have to be manual.

I agree with Steve, however, and would like it to always run even if the
handler breaks.
On Jan 25, 2013 3:55 PM, "Sean Escriva" sean.escriva@gmail.com wrote:

By "enable them in the client.rb" I'm assuming you mean using the
'manual install' method as described in the docs [1]

As Steve mentioned it's definitely preferable to manage report
handlers via the LWRP, which is provided by the chef_handler cookbook
[2]. You can more easily enable/disable specific handlers that way
without needing to editing the client.rb

[1] http://docs.opscode.com/essentials_handlers_install.html
[2] GitHub - chef-boneyard/chef_handler: DEPRECATED: Development repository for Chef Cookbook chef_handler

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Judd Maltin judd@newgoliath.com wrote:

Good point. My report handler code will likely go through revisions,
making it potentially unstable, and possible blocker. Thanks, Steve.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, steve . leftathome@gmail.com wrote:

There's no reason not to put them in client.rb. I usually use the LWRP
just
because it's easier to add and remove them via run list.

Well, I guess there's no reason except that if you somehow distribute a
broken handler to all your nodes, you then (IIRC from early ~10.0
experimentation) effectively kill their ability to check in until you
can
roll back the broken handler or the client.rb that calls it.

So using the LWRP / recipe / run list method, your nodes are still
checking
in and getting updated code. If the code says, "Add this handler" and
the
handler raises a big stinky exception, you modify the cookbook or take
the
recipe/role that adds the handler out of the run list.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Judd Maltin judd@newgoliath.com
wrote:

report handlers question: why NOT enable them in client.rb? I have a
large environment, and I want to ensure that it's run EACH AND EVERY
time.

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?

--
Judd Maltin
T: 917-882-1270
F: 501-694-7809
what could possibly go wrong?