Chef 12 brainstorming


#1

I’m curious if there’s any brainstorming going on between the community and Chef Inc. about functionality for inclusion in the next major release of Chef (12). I see there’s a small wiki doc that hasn’t been updated in a year at https://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Chef+12+Release+Checklist I think a lot of people could come up with some great minor/major changes that would really improve Chef for the next release. Some of the changes I had in mind seem too small for the full blown RFC process, but perhaps that’s where they should still be.

-Tim

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#2

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Tim Smith tsmith@llnw.com wrote:

I’m curious if there’s any brainstorming going on between the community and
Chef Inc. about functionality for inclusion in the next major release of
Chef (12). I see there’s a small wiki doc that hasn’t been updated in a
year at https://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Chef+12+Release+Checklist I
think a lot of people could come up with some great minor/major changes that
would really improve Chef for the next release. Some of the changes I had
in mind seem too small for the full blown RFC process, but perhaps that’s
where they should still be.

There’s been some internal thinking at ChefInc. about breaking (and
other) changes on the next release, but nothing’s really solidified.
We should get the community involved though to restart the process
again.

What do you think is the right format to have this discussion –
after-party of the dev meeting in #chef-hacking? Same place but
another time?

  • Julian


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#3

I’m going to share the internal Chef 12 thinking Julian is mentioning with
a doc on chef-rfc repo in the next couple of days. We can get this as a
starting point and iterate on the doc over a PR and chat more about it in
the next Chef Developers’ Meeting.

Does this sound good to kick off this discussion?

– Serdar

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Julian C. Dunn jdunn@aquezada.com wrote:

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Tim Smith tsmith@llnw.com wrote:

I’m curious if there’s any brainstorming going on between the community
and
Chef Inc. about functionality for inclusion in the next major release of
Chef (12). I see there’s a small wiki doc that hasn’t been updated in a
year at https://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Chef+12+Release+Checklist
I
think a lot of people could come up with some great minor/major changes
that
would really improve Chef for the next release. Some of the changes I
had
in mind seem too small for the full blown RFC process, but perhaps that’s
where they should still be.

There’s been some internal thinking at ChefInc. about breaking (and
other) changes on the next release, but nothing’s really solidified.
We should get the community involved though to restart the process
again.

What do you think is the right format to have this discussion –
after-party of the dev meeting in #chef-hacking? Same place but
another time?

  • Julian


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#4

Sounds great

On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Serdar Sutay serdar@getchef.com wrote:

I’m going to share the internal Chef 12 thinking Julian is mentioning with a doc on chef-rfc repo in the next couple of days. We can get this as a starting point and iterate on the doc over a PR and chat more about it in the next Chef Developers’ Meeting.

Does this sound good to kick off this discussion?

– Serdar

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Julian C. Dunn jdunn@aquezada.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Tim Smith tsmith@llnw.com wrote:

I’m curious if there’s any brainstorming going on between the community and
Chef Inc. about functionality for inclusion in the next major release of
Chef (12). I see there’s a small wiki doc that hasn’t been updated in a
year at https://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Chef+12+Release+Checklist I
think a lot of people could come up with some great minor/major changes that
would really improve Chef for the next release. Some of the changes I had
in mind seem too small for the full blown RFC process, but perhaps that’s
where they should still be.

There’s been some internal thinking at ChefInc. about breaking (and
other) changes on the next release, but nothing’s really solidified.
We should get the community involved though to restart the process
again.

What do you think is the right format to have this discussion –
after-party of the dev meeting in #chef-hacking? Same place but
another time?

  • Julian


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#5

And here is the RFC:

Please check it out and leave comments for things that doesn’t make sense
or the changes you’d like to see.

If you’d like Chef 12 to include a feature you can leave a comment with the
mini template in this RFC or feel free to submit a pr to the chef-12 branch
of the rfc repo :slight_smile:

– Serdar

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Tim Smith tsmith@llnw.com wrote:

Sounds great

On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Serdar Sutay serdar@getchef.com wrote:

I’m going to share the internal Chef 12 thinking Julian is mentioning with
a doc on chef-rfc repo in the next couple of days. We can get this as a
starting point and iterate on the doc over a PR and chat more about it in
the next Chef Developers’ Meeting.

Does this sound good to kick off this discussion?

– Serdar

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Julian C. Dunn jdunn@aquezada.com
wrote:

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Tim Smith tsmith@llnw.com wrote:

I’m curious if there’s any brainstorming going on between the community
and
Chef Inc. about functionality for inclusion in the next major release of
Chef (12). I see there’s a small wiki doc that hasn’t been updated in a
year at https://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Chef+12+Release+Checklist
I
think a lot of people could come up with some great minor/major changes
that
would really improve Chef for the next release. Some of the changes I
had
in mind seem too small for the full blown RFC process, but perhaps
that’s
where they should still be.

There’s been some internal thinking at ChefInc. about breaking (and
other) changes on the next release, but nothing’s really solidified.
We should get the community involved though to restart the process
again.

What do you think is the right format to have this discussion –
after-party of the dev meeting in #chef-hacking? Same place but
another time?

  • Julian


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#6

I’m going to suggest IRC, not because I think its the best idea, but
because if there was something not directly “Chef” i’d love to have, it
would be a much more active #chef IRC channel.