Hi Stephen, and thanks for this explanation.
Maybe someone should have changed the book title, then, and call it Pro
Chef or something close.
I can understand that there are plenty of docs on the Net, but something to
read on paper is, very often, far more convenient for learning. Im new at
Ruby, new at Chef and have done many cookbooks that worked well, installing
complete Apache+Mod-JK+PostgreSQL+JAVA+Tomcat+Webapp environments, and had a
to rewrite almost everything when Chef 11 went out.
Ill buy the book on Packt, hoping that you will find new ideas for a book
on Chef aimed at intermediate and expert users.
Regards,
– Philippe Bérard
De : Stephen Nelson-Smith [mailto:stephen@atalanta-systems.com]
Envoyé : samedi 19 octobre 2013 07:12
À : chef@lists.opscode.com
Objet : [chef] Re: RE: RE: Re: Chef : the definitive date ?
Hello all,
On 18 October 2013 08:18, Philippe Bérard philippe.berard@jalios.com
wrote:
Thats really bad news. I still have « Test-driven infrastructure with Chef
» but its a very small book covering only simple aspects of Chef.
The 2nd edition of this has just been released, it’s 300+ pages long and is
a complete rewrite. Owners of the 1st edition can download the 2nd edition
free of charge.
I cant understand how Stephen Nelson-Smith can attend so many events
telling people what to do or not, and then canceling this so much awaited
book.
I have mentioned this several times on Twitter, but I guess I should have
written on the list too. The book has been cancelled for the following
reasons:
-
Chef is large and fast moving. Attempting to maintain a “definitive
guide”, especially one for which there is an expectation that it will be
printed, and sold at a high price, is just unrealistic. Especially for one
person, who does more that write books for a living. Chef isn’t in a place
where we could write a definitive introduction and not have it date.
-
The docs.opscode.com site is a valuable resource. Opscode employs a
professional technical writer, and is responsive to suggestions and help.
It is improving all the time, and by explicitly not backing a definitive
guide, or expecting one, it encourages the community to cooperate on a
"currently" definitive guide for the community to use and share.
-
The rewrite of Test-driven Infrastructure was a massive undertaking. The
decision was made to finish that rather than divert attention to the TDG
book. Initial feedback I have had is that TDI2 is a good book, and I will
continue to work on and expand this.
-
For beginners, the learnchef website is great, and Seth Vargo is working
on an introductory volume, also for O’Reilly.
-
The strategy we feel is right (that is O’Reilly, me and Nathen at
Opscode) is to create subject-specific deeper dive books of a more
manageable length. I have a few ideas for this, and would welcome input
from the community as to what the most important topics are.
To sum up - I remain committed to continuing to write on Chef, and will try
to be responsive to suggestions and feedback. I think it was a mistake to
begin the TDG project, in retrospect, and while I do accept that the
communication around the cancellation could have been handled much better, I
do think it’s the right decision.
S.
We still dont have a pro puppet like documentation, and I think its a
real handicap for CHEFs community.
Regards,
– Philippe Bérard
De : Stephen Corbesero [mailto:Stephen.Corbesero@synchronoss.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 17 octobre 2013 19:22
À : 'chef@lists.opscode.com’
Objet : [chef] RE: Re: Chef : the definitive date ?
Unfortunately, the latest word I have seen from the OReilly web site is
that Chef: The Definitive Guide has been cancelled with very little
explanation.
This link is the discussion thread:
http://support.oreilly.com/oreilly/topics/chef_the_definitive_guide_missing_
from_search_results
From: Torben Knerr [mailto:ukio@gmx.de]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:49 PM
To: chef@lists.opscode.com
Subject: [chef] Re: Chef : the definitive date ?
Hi Philippe,
you might also be interested in the “Test-Driven Infrastructure with Chef
(2nd Edition!)” book which was released just a few days ago.
Cheers,
Torben
On Oct 17, 2013 6:38 PM, “Philippe Bérard” philippe.berard@jalios.com
wrote:
Hello all,
Is there any availability date for the « CHEF : the definitive guide » book,
which seems to be delayed over and over ? There is still no complete and
comprehensive guide on CHEF, and thats a real pain for newcomers.
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Regards,
Philippe Bérard
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Envoyé : jeudi 22 août 2013 02:45
À : chef@lists.opscode.com
Objet : [chef] Re: how to know if a chef-client run is occuring
Thanks Daniel, the feature in Enterprise Chef sounds interesting. Do you
know the timeline for this feature’s release in Enterprise Chef?
cheers
mike
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Arctic Wolf Networks
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On 2013-08-21, at 12:43 PM, Daniel DeLeo dan@kallistec.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Michael Hart wrote:
Is there a definitive way of querying the chef server to see if a
chef-client run is occurring on a node? We’ve noticed that a "knife status"
will return a timestamp of “382528 hours ago”, or however many hours you are
away from epoch, and but it’s not entirely consistent and using that in code
feels like a bit of a hack. Ideally I’d like an API to return true or false
if a chef-client run is occurring. Thoughts?
Chef client communicates over HTTP, which is a stateless protocol, so
there’s no robust way for the server to know anything other than the last
time a client made a request.
In Enterprise Chef (née Hosted and Private Chef), upcoming updates will
include a node run history reporting feature that emulates the ability to
track running clients by having them check in at the beginning and end of a
run. How much of this makes it into the open source version and when is an
open question at this point, but you could use a custom event dispatcher to
track the state of clients in a similar way by integrating with a different
system.
cheers
mike
–
Michael Hart
Arctic Wolf Networks
M: 226.388.4773
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